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The sad thing about living in a flat or condo is that sometimes we have to deal with a lot of noise coming from our neighbours. It could be sounds produced by drilling, drums or the common marble rolling and furniture dragging.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

And it can get very irritating, especially when the noise is heard in the morning on the weekend or at 4am. Which is what happened to a condo resident for some time, who couldn\u2019t <\/span>tahan <\/span><\/i>the noise anymore and resorted to putting up this notice in the condo lift.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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Passive-aggressive note about noise\u00a0<\/strong><\/h2>\n

According to the <\/span>note shared on Reddit<\/span><\/a> on Sunday, the supposed neighbour upstairs had been drilling every morning during the weekends.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

The writer of the note even claimed that the neighbour had lied to them about having a permit, before lying to the condo management about not knowing they needed one. Depending on the condo, residents may need to get approval from the <\/span>Management Corporation Strata Title (MCST)<\/span><\/a> before starting work.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

On top of drilling, the neighbour had apparently been moving furniture every five to 10 minutes from midnight to 4 am every day.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Perhaps to show their frustration, the note contained rhetorical questions like \u201cBy the way, do you know that your tables and chairs can actually be picked up off the ground instead of being dragged across the floor?\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

The note even had a second page, although the friend who shared it with the OP didn\u2019t manage to take a full picture of it. So the only visible part of it was \u201cAre you in need of a gym?\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

The OP has since updated that the note has been taken down.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Noise coming from upstairs is a common problem<\/strong><\/h2>\n

Since its posting, the note has stirred up a lot of discussions on the forum, with many saying they\u2019ve faced similar problems of hearing noises in the middle of the night or early morning. The most common noises were of furniture dragging across the floor, as well as marbles dropping and rolling.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Other types of noises heard include drilling, loud walking, slamming of doors and washing machines.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

How people have been dealing with the noise<\/strong><\/h2>\n

As of writing, we don\u2019t know if putting up a note on the lift can help solve the noise problem. But <\/span>when it comes to noisy neighbours, the usual advice would be to go for mediation or approach the MP when talking to them doesn\u2019t resolve the issue<\/span><\/a>.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

One Redditor shared that writing to the MP with all the details could work, as it made the HDB check if the people in the unit had the legal rights to stay in the flat. While this led to almost all of them getting evicted, giving the commenter some peace, the owner later came down to confront the issue.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

In contrast, approaching the MP didn\u2019t work for another Redditor. They shared that mediation, police reports and installing CCTV with sound for proof didn\u2019t help either. Instead, they got a waiver of the <\/span>Minimum Occupation Period (MOP)<\/span><\/a> for the flat.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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There have also been instances where recording the sound for proof is difficult, since they could never predict when the sound is produced. This makes it harder to gather evidence about the noise.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

On the other hand, there may be times when the noise is not actually caused by the neighbour upstairs. A Redditor shared that they\u2019ve been approached by their neighbours downstairs before, who were confused as the former\u2019s family had been sleeping.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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Source: Reddit<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

The noise may actually be due to structural issues, not caused by the neighbours upstairs<\/strong><\/h2>\n

Given how HDB blocks and condos are built, the noise we hear coming from upstairs may not be caused by the unit above us. Instead, it may originate from another part of the block or condo.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

According to a <\/span>Straits Times article<\/span><\/a>, sound can travel through structures from a number of units above, below or beside a unit. So the noise may not have come from the flat directly upstairs, especially if it\u2019s actually empty.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

It doesn\u2019t help that reinforced concrete is used in these structures either, as they\u2019re very effective in transmitting sound.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

The noise may even come from opposite blocks, as it gets transmitted through the air, which then travels via openings like windows and doors.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Other causes include contraction and expansion of the building\u2019s structures, as well as movement of connected materials such as pipes.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

So if you\u2019ve been hearing noises of furniture dragging like many commenters on the thread, it\u2019s best to not jump to conclusions just yet. Consider approaching your neighbour to check if they\u2019re really the ones causing the noise, because there\u2019s a possibility that it\u2019s due to structural issues.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

If you found this article helpful, 99.co recommends <\/span>Horror tenant claims latest victim in Bedok with $60k unpaid rent<\/span><\/a> and <\/span>9 ways your renovation could get you in trouble with your condo\u2019s MCST<\/span><\/a>.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Looking for a property to buy or rent? Find your dream home on<\/span> Singapore\u2019s largest property portal 99.co<\/span><\/a>!<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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